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Crimson Darkness
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: --Unlabored Flawlessness-- Reply with quote

I got this game 2 weeks ago after reading the reviews.

Holy frick, this is probably the hardest game I've ever played. I've taken 25+ hours on Normal xD

I have 11000 yellow essence and was wondering how I could make 70,000 (59,000 more) to upgrade the Wooden Sword to Unlabored Flawlessness. I already upgraded the WS to LVL 5.

Also, on that note, I'm on Chapter 12 near the end and was wondering if anyone had some crazy method of killing Smaugan the Flame Dragon.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wasted A LOT of essence. No first time player should get the UF (or even buy the wooden sword, for a few reasons.

1) You gotta be skilled with heavy weapons. You should get good with the dabilarho first. Spending essence to upgrade that is a better decision. I usually use a lvl 3 Dab to get the UF in chapter 10.

2) 108, 500 essence would be a waste of money if you are struggling in this game. That essence should be spent on elixirs (if you need them), or upgrading other weapons (Dragon Sword, Flail, Dabilarho).

3) The Unlabored Flawlessness discourages elixir use. Meaning the lower your health, the more powerful it is. If it is your first time through this game, you are not going to be able to use it at low health.

Even at full health it is one of the best weapons but you really have to know your enemies patterns when you use this thing. You won't be able to walk into a boss fight for the first time and expect to win just cause you have this weapon.




For the flame dragon. Go up top, and jump to the very left platform, then run to the very left of that platform. If you roll into the 'wall' his bite cannot reach you. To dodge the fire breath just run up against the wall behind you. To dodge the fire wall you have to roll into it, this can be tricky so if you want you can just block it and lose a little health.

Now that you know how to dodge, just wait for him to put his head down and smack him with the weapon of your choice (dabilarho works best).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice.

Should I just abandon upgrading the Wooden Sword and stick to the True Dragon Sword in the next chapter?

I upgraded the following weapons:
(The number in the parentheses shows the level)

Dragon Sword (3) (fully upgraded)
Vigoorian Flail (2) (fully upgraded)
Nunchaku (1) (fully upgraded)
Lunar(2)
Kitetsu (1)
Spear Gun(1) (fully upgraded)
Wooden Sword (5)
Dabilahro(1)
War Hammer (2) (fully upgraded)

I also have 5 save files, one from Chapter 2,7,11,12,and 12.

EDIT: Do you mean the platform that is already there or the one that you push the button?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illumatic means:

- When the fight starts, go left.
- There's a switch on the ground. Hit it.
- Go left when the platform has risen up.

Actually though, what I think you'd be better doing is -->+Y,Y,Y with the Lunar (level 3) at the start of the fight at least twice, then running for the switch. That way, you'll have an excellent bit of damage from the word go.

Incidentally, is your name a Myotismon reference? It sounds like one of his attacks.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Illumatic and Edge AoM - Thanks, this strategy has really worked. Can't wait to get the True Dragon Sword!

Edge AoM - Myotismon? No, not really.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

u have problems with far essences. thats funny, everytime i play it (on ND,normal,hard,VH) i max out my essences at chap 7.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

archwarrior wrote:
u have problems with far essences. thats funny, everytime i play it (on ND,normal,hard,VH) i max out my essences at chap 7.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

archwarrior wrote:
u have problems with far essences. thats funny, everytime i play it (on ND,normal,hard,VH) i max out my essences at chap 7.


Why is it funny? Confused Not all of us can play as good as you. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleh, just beat Smaugan, and those infected soldiers in the Drawbridge Area(in which I gained 25,000 essence)

Got through Awakened Alma in a breeze, now just need to know how to kill Ghost Fish.

Should be able to get there in time, assuming there are enough enemies before the last Muramasa in the game. Laughing

My third question is:

Vigoorian Flail never works on Ghost Fish(they just latch on like crazy), so I'm using True Dragon Sword's jump and X button to kill them. I've heard this is really effective, does anyone else use this or have any other suggestions?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that seems to be the best stradegy (jump x). In the original NG there was an absolutely perfect stradegy, but they ruined it in black.

I basically only use jump and x. Another good strat is equip the armlet of fortune and spam inazuma ninpo.

Also, there are no muramasa statues in chapters 15/16, so unless you wanna backtrack through the hardest part in the game, I'd suggest maxing out everything before you enter the core.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a couple strategies for ghost fish. One is to use the DS, and jump towards the fish, pressing X once. then reverse direction, and use that same move again.

You can also use the flails. It's something like, X-X-X-X-A (jump)- X(in air)-(land)-X-X-X-X-A-X repeat until all the fish are dead. There are some videos of it on iberians ninja gaiden. I'd post the link, but this computer only has dial up, so it would take forever to find. Just google it. Good luck!

Also note that the XY on landing XY with the dragon sword DOES NOT work in ninja gaiden black, even though you may see it on the site.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a video of how strong the UF is at low health plus 4 Ghost Fish Techniques. Here's the link to the site. http://www.iberiansninjagaiden.com/bigalskingb.htm and when you get there, download these two vids.
Bigalski - NGB - Norm - Powerful UF - 5 Bosses.wmv
Bigalski - NGB Hard - CH14 - 4 Ghost Fish Techniques.wmv

XXX JumpX with the Flails gets your your time bonus every time once you get the move down. Jump X, change direction and repeat with the DS, doesn't but it's safe.

Once you learn the game, get the UF and learn to use it at low health, you'll see it's the best weapon in the game by far.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the UF really helped me even on my first try.

the best combo is the blade of nitiri kinda thing with it.
i got a crazy way to kill the flame dragon :

cast the fire wheels nipo and jump in the lava with the UF and do the XYXXX OR JUMP XXXX you will need to use heeling items but thats how i did it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are already at low health with the UF, there's no need to jump in the lava. Just jump XXX, jump XXX, jump X and the fight is over. Some people start out with XYXXX but I always land in the lava.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigalski - Thanks for the suggestions and videos. They've really helped me so far.

I'm on Spirit Doku and have gotten him halfway down with no Ninpo or Devil Elixirs left (I wasted it when I was trying to figure out a way to kill Ghost Fish) on pause...

Any suggestions?

Note: I don't have Unlabored Flawlessness and have gotten suggestions of True Dragon Gleam... I don't know how to execute this move correctly though :p

I thought there was a Muramusa statue in Chapter 15? (At least there should be one, if the 50th Scarab is found in it)
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