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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you guys want Ryu to have that typical boyband band pretty face? And ninjas and beards dont go well together? thats nonsense sorry.

I want a a short beard for Ryu or even a scar across his eye to show off that he has been through many fights, and just give him more of a mature dark serious look to his face.

Even his father has BOTH http://www.meristation.com/EPORTAL_IMGS/GENERAL/noticias//IMG2-cw482198277925c/joe.jpg makes him look more experienced and badass.

Ah well, as long as Ryu keeps his mask on in NG all the time i am good, I really dislike his head design, especially with that long ugly girlish ponytail.
So much much for a badass super ninja Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think he looks like he's in a boy band at all. His face just looks sort of doll-ish due to DOA's art style. And pony tails have been apart of conventional ninja and samurai characters for a long time, I don't think they're girl-ish.

If they do reveal his face in NG3 I don't think he'll look too similar to doa's model anyway since NG's always had a more realistic depiction of character faces (look at Ayane).

Also, Joe is in his old age so a beard fits him. Ryu is still in his young 20s in the DOA games, and since the NG games take place before the first DOA tournament, I just think a beard on Ryu would look silly and wouldn't fit his character at all. He'll probably look more like a porn star than a badass.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The art style is one of the reasons I said its aimed at Japanese as well. With a young hero in an art style like this a beard just does not suit him. Ryu looks badass anyway. I just can't picture a beard on him. I believe a beard would be Westernising the game too much. Keep the DOA art style.

BTW Sath is just saying this because he has a goatee lol.

Beards are a reason I don't like these Western games because its so unoriginal.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Primeval_Demon wrote:


BTW Sath is just saying this because he has a goatee lol.

Beards are a reason I don't like these Western games because its so unoriginal



Ah I see. Good thing he's not in charge of character designs. Razz Ryu might go bald next.

I'd also hate for Ryu to get westernized. This reminds me of that horrible Dante redesign for the new DmC game.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Neders

Yes I loved that one too the blue suits Ryu very well, if the Fiend Ryu is his fallen version
than the Ryuken is definitely him as a super hero. I even liked the plain stage one training costume
he had in NG xbox.....I dont know why just something about those costumes

I wonder if they have them in Red Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So japanese guys DONT have beards at all, if they do its to "western" is that what I am getting from you guys?
LOL funny.

And ninjas must have long hair? you got to be joking right?
You are mixing samurai's to ninjas, know your facts first.

There is no "code" for long hair for ninja, if anything short hair is advantage for the guys not long and girly. Not even samurai's have that long. Its just the weird DOA artstyle. Even in NES he had short hair, a guys hair!
Ryu's is just as long as Kasumi for god sakes lol
Dont worry I hate the bald design choices we see today (infamous 2, sigh).

IMO, super long hair like how Ryu has is girly, but shorter like neck or more like Dante length, that would have been much better IMO.
Also, young guys do have beards around 20-30, I am 25 and I have a grizzled looking circle beard, makes me a bit more older and more serious, what I have been told LOL

"He'll probably look more like a porn star than a badass." complete opposite if done right.
You are making excuses like this to avoid it, bad excuses that is just nonsense IMO. beard = pornstar? serious!?

Its like Ezio.
In AC2 he looked like this typical young guy with not much experience and you could tell. But by the end he started growing a beard and going for that "master assassin" (master ninja, hello! lol) and looked more badass and looked more experienced in what he does.
You guys cant say "no it doesnt fit him" until you see it, you guys just dont want change up his "pretty face" lol,

Also, Primeval, I dont have a goatee, learn the name of the style Razz (its a circle beard, Gordon Freeman is a fine example)
"Beards are a reason I don't like these Western games because its so unoriginal." LOL just funny. And super hairgeles with emo shapes hairdos is why I hate japanese games, just ugly.
Make guys LOOK like guys and less gay Razz

Ryu's face is just generic, and what makes him iconic is the entire headmodel of mask, and headgear thats it.
Without that, its just bad.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sath wrote:
Also, Primeval, I dont have a goatee, learn the name of the style Razz (its a circle beard, Gordon Freeman is a fine example)
"Beards are a reason I don't like these Western games because its so unoriginal." LOL just funny. And super hairgeles with emo shapes hairdos is why I hate japanese games, just ugly.
Make guys LOOK like guys and less gay Razz


My bad XD But yeah, every popular game that comes from Western game developers: Uncharted, Killzone, god of war, mass effect, gears of war etc. What do they all have in common? Beards. IDK why Western devs give their heroes beards. They really don't need them. The reason I say its unoriginal is because SO MANY do it. But the reason it is fine for them is because of the type of art style. In the DOA art style everybody looks young even in their 20s. I still don't see the need for a beard though.

And about the ponytail, if he were to take his mask off you may not even see it in a ponytail. The dimensions demo I played with Ryu's samurai warriors costume his hair was just coming down long. Picture Hayate only his hair is slightly longer. At least thats how I'm remembering it.

But thats not the point. My point is in this particular style I just can't picture Ryu with a beard. And it would not suit him at all.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Primeval_Demon wrote:
Sath wrote:
Also, Primeval, I dont have a goatee, learn the name of the style Razz (its a circle beard, Gordon Freeman is a fine example)
"Beards are a reason I don't like these Western games because its so unoriginal." LOL just funny. And super hairgeles with emo shapes hairdos is why I hate japanese games, just ugly.
Make guys LOOK like guys and less gay Razz


My bad XD But yeah, every popular game that comes from Western game developers: Uncharted, Killzone, god of war, mass effect, gears of war etc. What do they all have in common? Beards. IDK why Western devs give their heroes beards. They really don't need them. The reason I say its unoriginal is because SO MANY do it. But the reason it is fine for them is because of the type of art style. In the DOA art style everybody looks young even in their 20s. I still don't see the need for a beard though.

And about the ponytail, if he were to take his mask off you may not even see it in a ponytail. The dimensions demo I played with Ryu's samurai warriors costume his hair was just coming down long. Picture Hayate only his hair is slightly longer. At least thats how I'm remembering it.

But thats not the point. My point is in this particular style I just can't picture Ryu with a beard. And it would not suit him at all.


Fine, screw beards.
Atleast give him a badass scar across his eye, make him look gritty considering how he acts and kills his enemies it fits his "style.
Ninja Gaiden is not DOA, so they can definitely go in for that gritty brutal look considering since NG1 was that.

You cant say it is uninspired, many western characters dont have beards either, its a mixed of both, same goes to Japanese characters.

Badass http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs34/i/2008/301/4/3/Tenchu_4___Rikimaru_in_shadows_by_buuzen.jpg

Ah well, I rather have them focus on gameplay than anything else.
Ryu is badass as long as he keeps his iconic look (without revealing his face, if anything, not the hair LOL).
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I even liked the plain stage one training costume
he had in NG xbox


I felt the same way when I played Sigma. I thought that maybe I could unlock it by beating the game or doing something special but no luck. I don't see why either, it's already in the game...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with Sath on this one, Ryu looks like a pretty boy, I remember when one of my friend first played DOA, it was DOA4 and he picked Hayate and he was like “dude looks like a lady!” lol.

Im not really for or against Ryu having a beard, I don’t think it’s a bad idea, but they probably not going to add a beard,
Heres an image from Aliens vs Ninja a Japanese movie…. its on a good movie

Not the best pic, search for the trailer if you want a better look at his beard

Im a little more reluctant to wards Ryu having scars on his face as a defying feature, no that its not cool or anything I just think it’s a little generic and typical especially of a character like Ryu, and I sort of see Ryu as being untouchable, fighting wars without even a scratch

Also the ponytail wouldn’t really bother me with any other character, but Ryu being a ninja you’d think he’d want to keep his hair short so it doesn’t get in the way, I suppose he dose keep it tucked away but still, and if we see Kasumi or Momiji In NG their hire really needs to be tied up

On alittle bit of a side note, I really like the image they’ve but out with Ryu with blood, it’s going to be a real shame if we can’t see the girls in the same manner, the DOA girls are seen as being plastic and shallow and having Ayane,Kasumi and Momiji look like how Ryu dos in that image would be amazing and only possible with NG I mean it’s not going to happen with DOA, I don’t know if people have seen the 3rd birthday or even that shot of the new Lara Croft form Tomb Raider where she’s all covered in dirt, that looks amazing she no longer looks like this plastic girl and I thing that type of look could work really well for momiji and even Kasumi who’s this very innocent and no violent character could look brilliant, having her cverd in blood that both her own and someone else’s and being cut, you know thay should go all out and iv her a bust lip and broken nose and bruises and looking like shes about to cry,

i hope we see a lot of that blood coverd and batterd look cut and brused on Ryu in NG3
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A game like NG, it is not shocking to see Ryu with a scar, dude gets his ass kicked, but wins in the end, but that doesnt mean his wounds will heal with no mark on them.
Nonsense.
For me, beard or no beard, doesn't matter, keep his head covered with that awesome headdesign.

Also, I love how gritty and dark Ryu looks in the NG3 artwork, I do hope they plan on some cool bloodsplatter on body like Dragon Age and God of War 3, just looks like there was a some crazy battle going on.
Though it looks weird when a few seconds later all t hat blood is gone, I am mixed about that.

I love the new Lara Croft, looks damn hot and now she looks badass!
Though I am glad Ryu is the only playable character in NG3, focus on him considering its HIS game! Last time they tried with additional ones, it sucked and was just boring and forced.

Rachel doesnt belong in NG, so they should not add her AGAIN.
Her story was to save her sister and that was done.

Ayane, well she was a part of the story, so it fits. And she is the only character that is as fast as Ryu.
As much as I love Momiji's design, she was boring in NGS2, so no playable.

I dont mind seeing Kasumi, Ayane and Momiji in NG, but I dont want them to be playable...unless there is a special mode unlocked after you beat the main game.

I want Ninja Gaiden to stay away from DOA franchise as much as possible, unless Hayate makes an appearence and is playable.
Glad Hayashi decided to make Ryu the only playable guy for NG3.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Ryu turns out to be the only one playable f this sh1t. There are ways round it other than putting their chapters in the main story. If they are on separate modes or difficulties there is no forcing about it. Its your choice to pick those modes.

I'm not buying it if Ryu is the only playable one. Not only that but I agree with some things Tengu said. Only making Ryu playable would just make it worse.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind other characters as DLC since not everyone wants them.
Oh yeah I seen that movie AVN yesterday it's hilarious that chick is the truth!!!! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would happily pay for DLC. But actually rereading everything I cannot find anything where Hayashi outrightly states Ryu is the only one playable. Perhaps I've misunderstood. Anyone care to point out the quote?

Edit: forget it I found it. I really hope he is trolling, or the quote was taken out of context. Its Ryu's game sure but why would they bother to add Kasumi at the end of Sigma 2 and then claim it has reference to 3 only to back out? Whats the point in that?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cameo only?

I would hate the game even more if they force me to play as the girls again.
Seperate unlock mode for the girls, FINE, but in the main story, no!
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