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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Itagaki, what the fark? Reply with quote

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/21/itagaki-ninja-gaiden-sigma-is-no-good this make me cry Cry Baby
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously that is an insult to his team that he works with.

He doesn't understand the meaning of PORT.

It is not suppose to be differentt, like how NG is to NG2.

I like Itagaki and all, but sometimes he needs to stop trash talking like that.

This alone should be a reason that Hayashi (thats his name right) should make a new "Ninja Gaiden" game completely different from NG2 and Sigma for PS3 owners.

Something with Hayate and his journey, would be great.

They could use all the resources they have for NG2 and just remodel and re animate and such for Hayate and his own game, that would be great.

I think Hayashi made a great job on NG Sigma, and I have no doubt that he could pull off a Hayate spin off franchise, but that would be just for PS3 brand, if Sony really helps them out.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sath wrote:
Seriously that is an insult to his team that he works with.

He doesn't understand the meaning of PORT.

It is not suppose to be differentt, like how NG is to NG2.

I like Itagaki and all, but sometimes he needs to stop trash talking like that.

This alone should be a reason that Hayashi (thats his name right) should make a new "Ninja Gaiden" game completely different from NG2 and Sigma for PS3 owners.

Something with Hayate and his journey, would be great.

They could use all the resources they have for NG2 and just remodel and re animate and such for Hayate and his own game, that would be great.

I think Hayashi made a great job on NG Sigma, and I have no doubt that he could pull off a Hayate spin off franchise, but that would be just for PS3 brand, if Sony really helps them out.
Another spinoff Exclamation Playing as Hayate would be sweet Smile But sadly, the only reason Ninja Gaiden sigma come to the PS3 in was to entice the PS3 owners into getting Xbox360 for future NGs.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I know, NG Sigma was like a bait to drag PS3 owners to buy 360 for NG2, and they definitely want it, but I don't think they are stupid enough to sell their PS3s and buy 360 for NG2 when MGS4 is coming after all these years of waiting.

But I still hope a Hayate spinoff from Hayashi would be good, his own "Ninja Gaiden" for PS3 owners, that way, both parties would be happy for ninja action!

As long as they make Hayate as bad ass as he was in the DOA4 ending video it is gonna be fine! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup I hope they make a hayate gaiden itself.. Hes my best DOA character..alongside ryu. didnt like ryu that much until i played gaiden .LOL
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/09/23/dead-or-alive-4-creator-says-xbox-360-best-on-earth/ ( I think the reason he hated Sigma because he hated Sony since DOA2.)
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that is old news, Itagaki hates Sony.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why he doesn't like it so much. I kind of feel sad for Hayashi. He is pretty much saying to everyone that Hayashi didn't deliver. NGS is still NG. We didn't get the promised in-game cutscenes instead of low res CG from Ninja Gaiden and Rachel didn't have multiple weapons (whip from trailer) which was promised. But it was still just like Ninja Gaiden. It had it's good aspects too. They got rid of the bad puzzles (although I liked the one after fighting Doku) and made the water level a lot better and we got Ninja Gaidne in HD.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep

If Itagaki didn't like NG Sigma, how come he is using Dragon's Claw & Tiger's Fang that was used in NG Sigma first, and now using it in NG2.

Let's face it, itagaki KNOWS NG Sigma was a very good port, but he doesn't want to admit it in interviews, he has a image to live up to.

I actually liked the puzzle ones after you beat Doku, but I was also glad the rest of the "annoying" parts that made the original a bit boring to keep doing was gone.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically there are some drawbacks in NGS. The water texturing was very bad the framerate was inconsistent it becomes horrible with tearing when there are lots of enemies on screen. Rachel missions for me was not a big add-on to the series. The only positive things that Hayashi made for this game were the dual katanas and real-time items usage with the d-pad other than that it wasn't a great port.

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sath wrote:
Yep

If Itagaki didn't like NG Sigma, how come he is using Dragon's Claw & Tiger's Fang that was used in NG Sigma first, and now using it in NG2.

Let's face it, itagaki KNOWS NG Sigma was a very good port, but he doesn't want to admit it in interviews, he has a image to live up to.

I actually liked the puzzle ones after you beat Doku, but I was also glad the rest of the "annoying" parts that made the original a bit boring to keep doing was gone.


Well Itagaki is right for one part ('cause I hate Sony too xD), but, otherwhise although I'm 100% Xboxer I must confense that NGS is one of the greatest games that I've ever seen (specially for Rachel) and is the only PS3/Sony game that I really wish. So Itagaki was a little bit agressive with Sony.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sath wrote:

They could use all the resources they have for NG2 and just remodel and re animate and such for Hayate and his own game, that would be great.

I think Hayashi made a great job on NG Sigma, and I have no doubt that he could pull off a Hayate spin off franchise, but that would be just for PS3 brand, if Sony really helps them out.


well that would be so wrong if they made Hayate in his own game just the the PS3 console...

since when did Hayate ever appear on the sony games... I mean he is after all from the
Dead Or Alive franchise which now is focused on the Microsoft consoles most.

Sure Hayate would be as a cool character, but the DoA 2 didnt make it that good on the PS2....

Hayate had a amnesia on the DoA2 game, and then returned to normal on the DoA 3.

When the DoA 3 came out exclusive for the Xbox, thats where Team Ninja became big with their games.

Thats why they keep making the DoA games for the Xbox and added the entire DoA series on Xbox.

Now that Hayate became so damn awesome on DoA4 wich is a exclusive title for the 360, it would
be so wrong to make a DoA character in his own game to another console that has nothin to do with
the characters background story.

Every Sony owners would first think; who is Hayate? were is he from? just another wanna be Ninja Gaiden game...

so I gues they would earn more money for the 360 console were all are aware who the character is from the start
than going to a console with people that are not so familiar to him or even played the DoA games.

if u get my point.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand what you are getting at, but I m sure hayate has a uniQ story, thats what an action adventure is about, I agree that taking characters outta fighting games and making adv. games of them is really something that shouldnt be emulated, but believe me , Hes a ninja, even though all his opponents are doatec itself. It depends on the presentation. And the game doesnt have to be on sony, it can be an xbox exclusive. matters not. The Question at hand is , will it be made or not..? And I definitely think not. So lets just say we who wish for the game are just hoping that such a game comes into TN verizon of thinking
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im sure it would be an awesome game, but most of his storyline is actually based on the DoA games...

Already in the DoA ULTIMATE intro video it pretty much shows the way he grew up and how things started in his life.

Most of his life is based on the DoA... thats how the relation is between Ayane, Kasumi and Hayate... the DoA series. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bogetsu wrote:


Well Itagaki is right for one part ('cause I hate Sony too xD), but, otherwhise although I'm 100% Xboxer I must confense that NGS is one of the greatest games that I've ever seen (specially for Rachel) and is the only PS3/Sony game that I really wish. So Itagaki was a little bit agressive with Sony.
Unlike you, I dislike Sigma.The reason I dislike Sigma was because the game is pretty buggy.(a lot of loading in Sigma while you fighting enemies and sometimes screen tearing, that's a good reason,right Question ). Sometimes I bash the P$3 in Gamefaqs to shut the trolls up.
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