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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Speed Run Discussion Reply with quote

talk about how to get the best results for a speed run here


im gonna try to get a time under 3 hours on VH since i have nothing to do on NG Shocked

i think i know what to do like reset the xbox so you wont waste time when restarting.....but what about when your reading the clear time??? it adds up like when pressing pause right??

i think when you grab some chests it wastes time but not by alot so i think you can grab a couple
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my first thought was the 8 horseman in chapter 2......that gonna take awhile to do with the dragon sword

i think the best way to do that part quick is to use the inferno ninpo.....you will need 4 shots to kill 8 of them.......you can get 2 free and buy 2 of them and the ninpo so that is like 7000 essense you need Shocked (not sure if the inferno ninpo cost 1k in VH.....forgot what the price was)

so that means you gotta kill extra ninjas in chapter 1




chapter 1 fights you cant skip

the room where you first encounter the brown ninjas
the room where you fight the white ninjas outside of murai's room
boss = Murai

i think you wont get enough essence for the devil elixars + inferno ninpo if you skip all the fights so i think you should fight the brown ninjas for essense because they are easy to kill

Murai should be killed quickly using the tactic in shins video



all chapter 2 fights can be skipped except the 8 horseman

boss = red samurai........not sure on how to kill him the quickest way.....maybe use UT
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote an FAQ for an NG Speed Run a long time ago (check the FAQs section). There are usually one or two main objectives in every chapter. All you have to do is complete it in the shortest amount of time.

All enemy encounters and puzzles are chronicled step-by-step per chapter in the FAQ.

As for boss battles, if you can't beat the boss within (or close to) the time limit then your just wasting speed run time. If it takes you more than 3 minutes to defeat a boss or sub-boss, then you need more practice. You should have your tactics down pat easily (even with the Chapter 2 horsemen) if you know what to do.

The official way to see your speed run time is from the SUCCESSIVE PLAY screen once you finish the game (and save it).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, I've even tried Very Hard yet, let alone a speedrun. My fastest time on Normal is under 6 hours and then I've found everything.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the horseman, this might save you a ninpo right off the bat. Before you enter the fight, shoot the ki target (bottom right I think) and start the fight without collecting it. As soon as the fight starts, use the essence to do a UT on the first swordsman which should knock him off his horse and go from there. Might help a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigalski wrote:
On the horseman, this might save you a ninpo right off the bat. Before you enter the fight, shoot the ki target (bottom right I think) and start the fight without collecting it. As soon as the fight starts, use the essence to do a UT on the first swordsman which should knock him off his horse and go from there. Might help a bit.


Do you mean the main boss or the horsemen? Because I tried on the horsemen the trick you describe, but the essence doesn't float there long enough (same as this: when you start Chapter 1, you can kill the crow leading to the very first encounter. But you cannot use the essence for an UT.).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no you have not leraned it yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no you have not leraned it yet.


What do you mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think you can make ultimate before you learn it from murai.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes u can...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sephiroth wrote:
yes u can...


True that, you can use UT's in Chapter 1.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder if they fix that on NGB
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fix? it was supposed to be like that, and I don't see why it should/would be changed.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illmatic wrote:
fix? it was supposed to be like that, and I don't see why it should/would be changed.


Same here, otherwise you can buy pretty much nothing in the beginning of the game.
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